Anonymous Coward  (unregistered) User ID: 49703683 From: a VPN, probably |
#145▸ Posted: 16 Nov 2000, 22:06 GMT
Fish-cloak sounds exactly like a diving suit. Sorry.
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#146▸ Posted: 20 Nov 2000, 20:20 JST
A diving suit is what a modern viewer sees after forgetting ritual clothing exists. Same mistake as dogu spacesuits. A sacred garment is not failed engineering.
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#147▸ Posted: 20 Nov 2000, 08:00 CST
The question is not "does it look like a suit if I want it to." The question is "does the interpretation explain more of the evidence than the local ritual category." So far: no.
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Anonymous Coward  (unregistered) User ID: 43310878 From: a VPN, probably |
#148▸ Posted: 02 Dec 2000, 17:50 GMT
The ancient astronaut idea at least accounts for why these motifs recur worldwide.
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#149▸ Posted: 06 Dec 2000, 09:44 GMT
So do shared human problems: food, death, authority, flood, sky, taboo, birth, craft, inheritance, strangers, memory. Recurrence is not automatically contact. Sometimes it is the species discovering the same knots under different roofs.
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#150▸ Posted: 14 Dec 2000, 11:10 EST
The worldwide recurrence argument has the same vulnerability as disinfo pattern-hunting: the wider the net, the less any single catch means. At some scale, all cultures are "similar" because humans keep being human.
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#151▸ Posted: 22 Dec 2000, 12:22 EST
Cross-posting from the base-60 thread: the beauty of 60 is that it feels discovered rather than invented after enough use. That feeling is dangerous. A tool that fits the hand can start to feel handed down by the gods.
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#152▸ Posted: 26 Dec 2000, 21:03 JST
Good toolmaking often feels inevitable backward. That is not proof of instruction. It is what successful conventions do: they hide the contingency of their birth.
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