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#9▸ Posted: 14 Feb 1999, 21:43 GMT
That is a good question and not basic. The huge reigns matter. What we cannot do is leap from "numbers are mythically enormous" to "therefore orbiting planet". The King List is doing royal theology, time before and after flood, legitimacy, memory, maybe mathematics. It is strange enough without importing a planet to carry it.
Leeds · the tablets say less than the documentaries claim |
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#10▸ Posted: 18 Feb 1999, 09:10 GMT
The moment worth holding is the flood as a hinge in time. Many traditions use deluge or catastrophe not merely as event memory but as a divider between orders of being. Before the flood, kingship is cosmic; after the flood, rule becomes human and brittle. That is not a spaceship. It is a theology of rupture, and it is magnificent.
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#11▸ Posted: 18 Feb 1999, 10:02 GMT
Sounds like academic language for explaining away the obvious. They said gods came down. Maybe they meant gods came down.
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#12▸ Posted: 18 Feb 1999, 04:33 CST
Maybe. Now bring the object that distinguishes literal descent by visitors from a culture describing divine authority. Extraordinary claim, ordinary tablet. That bar is low and somehow never met.
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#13▸ Posted: 18 Feb 1999, 13:26 GMT
The "came down" pattern interests me as behaviour before it interests me as physics. A community that makes civilisation sacred will put its origin outside itself because the rule has to feel older than the ruler. Externalising authority can be adaptive over long time. It makes law harder to treat as merely local preference.
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#14▸ Posted: 22 Feb 1999, 02:14 EST
If Anunnaki just means gods, why does every documentary say those who from heaven to earth came? They cannot all have invented that phrase.
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#15▸ Posted: 22 Feb 1999, 10:07 GMT
They did not all invent it. They inherited it from a modern gloss that became a slogan. Repetition is not attestation. If a TV narrator repeats a phrase from a paperback and the next narrator repeats the narrator, you have a chain, not a tablet.
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#16▸ Posted: 22 Feb 1999, 21:42 JST
This happens with Japanese myth too. A modern sentence becomes "ancient Japanese believed..." after three documentaries. The gods do not need help being strange. Translators need more fear.
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