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#65▸ Posted: 04 May 1998, 13:25 CET
I write about folklore and modern mythology from a European perspective, and this is fascinating. The Mothman legend is a perfect example of how a historical event gets transformed into a contemporary folktale, and now a Hollywood film is the next iteration of that transformation.
The original 1966-67 sightings are the primary source. John Keel's book is the first major retelling and interpretation -- that's layer two. Now the film is layer three, and each iteration adds, changes, emphasizes different elements. The movie isn't trying to be a documentary; it's participating in the folklore process itself.
What's interesting is that the movie will probably cement certain elements of the Mothman story in the popular imagination, even if those elements don't match the historical record. This is how folklore evolves in the modern era -- not through oral tradition alone, but through media.
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#66▸ Posted: 12 May 1998, 16:40 EST
Response to the poster who is originally from here -- tell your uncle I said hello, and that his story matters. There are still people documenting this, people who want to know what actually happened. If he's willing to talk, even now, thirty-five years later, there are researchers who would be genuinely interested.
One thing I've realized since the movie came out is how much of the real story depends on people like your uncle being willing to speak. The newspaper accounts are one thing. But the witnesses themselves -- they're the actual historical record. And a lot of them are getting older. This is a good time to reach out to them.
The movie might bring tourism, but the real value would be capturing the actual testimony while we still can.
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#67▸ Posted: 20 May 1998, 10:15 PST
Trying to plan a trip to Point Pleasant based on the movie. Is there actually anything to see there? Like, are there tours? Can you visit the TNT area? I want to go to the bridge where people died but I also don't want to be a vulture about it.
Also -- what's the actual evidence that anything real happened? I trust this board more than movie reviews but I want to know what to believe.
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#68▸ Posted: 29 May 1998, 15:20 EST
To the poster planning a visit: yes, you can visit. We're still here. There are a few people doing tour groups now, especially since the movie came out. I'd recommend going through the Chamber of Commerce -- they can put you in touch with legitimate guides.
The TNT area is accessible, though there's not much to see except the landscape itself. The bridge site has a memorial. There are people who will talk to you about what happened, if you approach them respectfully.
Don't come looking for ghosts or monsters. Come looking to understand what a town went through, and what people experienced. That's the real story.
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#69▸ Posted: 06 Jun 1998, 09:30 EST
Okay, I've read Keel's book. I'm on page 247 and I have to say, a lot of what's in the movie isn't in here. The movie invents the whole ending. Also Keel's tone is very different from the movie -- he's more investigative, less apocalyptic. And he visits the actual town and talks to actual people.
Why does the movie get so much wrong if it's based on the book?
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#70▸ Posted: 14 Jun 1998, 08:00 EST
The movie theaters are still packed. I heard a showing this week at the mall multiplex was nearly full. It's strange seeing the whole town suddenly paying attention to something that's been part of our history for thirty-five years.
There's been an uptick in phone calls to the Visitor's Center. Most people are polite. Some are... let's say, they're carrying a lot of expectations based on the film that don't match reality. But it's manageable.
I think we'll see a tourism bump for a while. Whether it lasts past the spring depends on how many people visit and whether they're treated well when they get here. That's on us, locally.
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#71▸ Posted: 23 Jun 1998, 14:20 PST
I went to Point Pleasant over the weekend. Drove up from Ohio after finishing Keel's book. I wanted to see if it matched what I'd read and what I'd seen in the movie.
It didn't match either. The movie is clearly fictional. But Keel's account also felt more interpretive than I expected -- he's definitely exploring the paranormal angle pretty heavily, and I can see how that's influenced how people think about the sightings.
But when I stood at the bridge site and read the memorial, it was clear what actually mattered: forty-six people died. That's not paranormal. That's not fictional. That's just loss.
I spent an hour there. A local woman stopped and talked to me, asked why I was there. I told her I'd seen the movie and read Keel's book. She said, "Most of it's nonsense. Something happened in 1966, and then the bridge fell down in 1967. Everything else is people guessing about something that happened forty-five years ago." Then she left.
I think she was right.
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#72▸ Posted: 01 Jul 1998, 16:45 EST
That woman who spoke to you was probably someone from here. She was right. Something happened in 1966 -- people saw something they couldn't identify. We don't know what it was. Then in 1967, the bridge fell, and that was a tragedy we do understand: metal fatigue, and forty-six people died.
What matters now is that the story doesn't get so transformed by retellings that the real history disappears. The mystery of the 1966 sightings is interesting. But it shouldn't overshadow the actual, documented loss.
Glad you made the visit with the right frame of mind. That's more than the movie-only crowd usually does.
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