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#9▸ Posted: 14 Mar 1997, 17:03 MST
Glendale. 8:25pm. It was above us for maybe three minutes. The light was so bright on the ground where it passed that you could read a book. I don't care what the government says or doesn't say. I know what I saw.
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#10▸ Posted: 14 Mar 1997, 21:38 GMT
I've been making calls across the pond to contacts at Lakenheath and a few other places. Nothing official yet from Luke AFB. But here's the thing: if this object was moving at any reasonable speed, and it was the size that everyone's describing, it would have been visible on primary radar for a solid 20-25 minutes. You cannot hide that on a scope. You simply cannot. Either Luke's radar was not operational -- which I doubt -- or someone knows exactly what this was and isn't talking. This is the question that will crack this open.
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#11▸ Posted: 15 Mar 1997, 09:11 MST
I need to separate two things in my mind and I think others are doing this too. There was the big formation around 8 o'clock to 8:30. That's the main event. But then there were lights visible later over the mountains south of the city, maybe 10pm or so. They were stationary. Completely different thing. I didn't see them myself, but neighbors have mentioned it. I think we're all conflating these and we need to be careful about that. The formation is the real mystery. The stationary lights are secondary.
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#12▸ Posted: 15 Mar 1997, 11:45 MST
Nurse, Scottsdale. I was driving home at 8:20pm and I saw this thing. The V shape, the lights on the underside. I pulled over because I couldn't drive. I just sat there watching it. It moved across the entire sky at maybe 30 miles an hour. Very slow. The light was purple and white and it was the most beautiful and terrifying thing I've ever seen. I cried. I'm still crying. What is happening to us?
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#13▸ Posted: 15 Mar 1997, 17:22 EST
Preliminary report: 47 verified witnesses so far, with accounts from Prescott in the north to Tucson in the south. The formation appears to have traveled roughly 300 miles in approximately 20 to 30 minutes, which would put its speed at roughly 500 mph, which is within conventional aircraft parameters. However, the width of the formation -- estimates range from half a mile to several miles wide -- does not match any known aircraft or aircraft carrier configuration. The silence is also problematic. I'm requesting anyone with military or aviation expertise to help me analyze the physics here.
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#14▸ Posted: 15 Mar 1997, 21:51 GMT
Right. 500 mph at half a mile wide. That still puts it on the scope. A target of that size at that speed would have been tracked for the better part of half an hour. I've been in this game long enough to know: either it was on the radar and they're not talking about it, or there's something fundamentally wrong with the standard explanations we're being offered. I'm willing to wait and see what Luke AFB says officially, but I'm skeptical they'll say much.
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#15▸ Posted: 16 Mar 1997, 08:37 MST
Tucson. Saw the main formation at 8:10pm as it passed over. Then at 10pm I was still awake and I saw lights in a straight line to the south, toward the Sierra Estrellas. They were just sitting there. Not moving. Very bright, in a line. I don't know if it's connected to the formation or a different thing entirely. Has anyone else seen these secondary lights?
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#16▸ Posted: 16 Mar 1997, 12:22 MST
Trucker on I-10 heading west. 8:30pm exactly by my watch. This thing came up behind us and passed over the highway. The whole rig was lit up underneath like it was high noon. I was terrified. I almost jackknifed. I stopped at a rest area and I sat there for an hour just trying to understand what I'd seen. It's gone. Whatever it was, it's gone. But it was REAL. I know what's real.
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