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Gematria in scripture -- code, coincidence, or apophenia? (I lean coincidence)
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gematria_Gita
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#25▸ Posted: 29 Mar 2002, 00:25 EST
Not stupid. And yes, training is part of it. You chose 42 for a book, then you notice 42 because it belongs to you. That does not make it meaningless. It makes it personal, which is different from evidential.

A lot of bad numerology happens when people mistake a personal hook for an external signal. Your 42 can be a private charm, a joke with yourself, a little flag on your own attention. It cannot become proof that the universe is sending messages unless you state a rule before the next 42 appears and count the non-42s too.
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#26▸ Posted: 06 Jun 2002, 11:42 CST
Ledger check as of today, because this thread has become useful enough to deserve bookkeeping. By Gita's own rules: one mild curiosity, four misses, one personal-attention question correctly not counted as evidence, and a pile of drive-by examples demonstrating the exact error we are testing against.

I remain unconvinced by gematria. I am increasingly convinced by Gita. Those are not the same sentence, and the distinction is why the thread belongs here.
Chicago · convinced by the honesty, not the claim
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#27▸ Posted: 14 Aug 2002, 21:11 GMT
Tiny archival note: when people quote "the rabbinic tradition says" in this thread, please name the edition or at least the printed source. I spent an afternoon trying to trace one of the claims Gita tested and found it in a 19th-century popular compilation, then again in a photocopied pamphlet with the wording changed. That does not make it worthless, but it makes "traditional" do a lot of unpaid labour.

Old does not mean original. Printed twice does not mean ancient. Sorry. Archivists ruin parties.
Milton Keynes · which paragraph admitted what
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#28▸ Posted: 23 Oct 2002, 18:19 EST
Gita, my year-end astrology ledger is going to be ugly and I am weirdly proud of that. Posting it here because your thread helped me name the feeling: the public miss changes the question from "can I impress them" to "can I stay honest while unimpressive." That is the whole spiritual discipline, if there is one.

Also Occams is nicer when he has columns to fill in. Do not tell him I said that.
Asheville · ugly ledgers are still ledgers
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#29▸ Posted: 31 Dec 2002, 23:02 EST
Year-end ledger, because if I do not post it tonight I will find a way to romanticise it tomorrow.

Nine pre-registered tests since July. Results by the rules stated before arithmetic: one mild curiosity, seven misses, one historical-textual footnote that wanted very badly to dress as a hit and was not allowed. Zero predictions. Zero newspaper codes. Zero phone bills admitted into evidence. I am still a believer, but the thing I believe in is smaller, older, and less eager to perform on command than it was in July.

Occams, thank you for the deal. Sue, thank you for making misses less lonely. Marv, if you are still reading, I hope your calculator gets some rest. Next year I will do ten more, same rule: one scheme, one text, stated first.
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