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cellar_Cormac
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#1▸ Posted: 14 Nov 1999, 14:00 GMT
Stonemason here, so when I build a root cellar it stays built. A pantry you cannot diagram is a pantry you will lose tins in, so here is mine in plan view. Rotation is a moral matter -- oldest to the front, newest to the back, and a pantry that does not enforce FIFO will quietly grow a layer of 1998 at the bottom that you find with your nose.
  +----------------------------+
  | [door]            vent ^   |
  |  shelf A: water (front=old)|
  |  shelf B: grains/legumes   |
  |  shelf C: tins (FIFO -->)  |
  |  shelf D: oils/fats (cool) |
  | bins: roots in sand [][][]|
  | damp trap o     temp gauge |
  +----------------------------+
The two numbers that matter and nobody logs: lowest winter temp and worst-month humidity. Tell me those and I will tell you what will keep and what will rot.
County Clare · rotation is a moral matter
BugOutBarb
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#2▸ Posted: 27 Nov 1999, 09:30 MST
Cormac the "layer of 1998 you find with your nose" is the truest sentence on this board. Mine is the same idea gone vertical because high-desert floor space is precious -- I will draw it later. One add: label the FRONT of the tin with the month in marker, not the top. You read a shelf from the side, not from a helicopter. Saved me more waste than any gadget.
land logistics, not LARP
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#3▸ Posted: 11 Dec 1999, 18:45 MST
Good thread and one quiet word, since it is my lane: a beautifully diagrammed stores room is also a beautifully diagrammed shopping list for anyone who should not have it. Share the METHOD all you like -- FIFO, the two numbers, the marker on the front -- but maybe do not post the photo of the full shelves with a recognisable window behind them. I am not being paranoid for sport. I am saying the diagram is the gift; the inventory is nobody's business.
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cellar_Cormac
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#4▸ Posted: 24 Dec 1999, 11:20 GMT
OldHand is right and it is why I posted a plan and not a photograph. A drawing teaches; a photo inventories. Anyone can build my cellar and nobody learns what is on my shelves. That is the correct trade. Barb, draw the vertical one, I want to see how you beat the damp going up -- warm air rises and so does trouble.
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#5▸ Posted: 06 Jan 2000, 09:55 MST
Vertical version as promised. Not pretty, but it has kept us from burying the old tins behind the heroic new purchases.
  wall
  +------------------+
  | A: daily tins -> |
  | B: grains jars   |
  | C: pressure cans |
  | D: oils, dark    |
  | E: tools/labels  |
  +------------------+
  floor: two water rows, oldest left
The trick is that each shelf has a direction. If a thing has no direction, it will eventually become archaeology.
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Mae_Trent
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#6▸ Posted: 20 Jan 2000, 12:18 MST
Front labels changed my life in the most boring way. I use month/year in fat marker on masking tape on the FRONT, plus one coloured dot for category because my husband sees "tin" as a single food group. Red protein, blue fruit, green veg, yellow meals. It looks childish and that is why it works when you are tired.

Also put one empty space on every shelf on purpose. If the shelf is packed solid, rotation becomes a lie you tell visitors.
marker on the front, not the lid
Pia_in_Denver
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#7▸ Posted: 02 Feb 2000, 13:02 MST
Apartment translation, because no cellar: under-bed crates labelled A/B/C/D, oldest crate nearest the side I actually use. Water is behind the sofa in identical jugs so it does not look like a bunker unless you know why the sofa is six inches out.

I cannot control humidity perfectly, so my rule is smaller packages, faster rotation, nothing I have to pretend I will cook in an emergency if I do not cook it now.
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#8▸ Posted: 15 Feb 2000, 15:40 MST
Cormac asked for the two numbers and he is right. My worst-month humidity is 62 percent even with a little fan, lowest winter temp 38F. That means dry beans are fine, powdered milk is shorter than the chart says, and oils get moved through fast. The chart in a book is a suggestion written for somebody else's room.

Measure your room. Then believe the room.
rotation without waste
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