 Member ◆◆ Posts: 640 Joined: Mar 2001 From: Wrocław, PL |
#17▸ Posted: 01 Jan 1998, 11:26 GMT
The joke accidentally proves the point by parody. The myth survives because the outline is simple: secret lab, missing scientists, strange shape, forbidden symbol.
We can keep investigating the first two without letting the third steer the wheel. For next steps I would separate claims into a table: wartime technical claim, postwar intelligence echo, later occult addition. Anything that only appears in the third column should not be used to argue for engineering reality.
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 Member ◆◆◆ Posts: 2,210 Joined: Jun 2000 From: Koblenz, DE |
#18▸ Posted: 20 Jan 1998, 12:04 GMT
I reduced the claims to a three-column table: first, wartime documents that actually exist; second, postwar testimony and memoir material; third, later saucer lore added by magazines and fringe paperbacks.
The same names keep moving from column two into column one without evidence. That is where the story starts to wobble.
separate the layers, then label the dust |
 Member ◆◆ Posts: 840 Joined: Jan 2001 From: Prague, CZ |
#19▸ Posted: 09 Feb 1998, 13:18 GMT
From the Czech and Soviet procurement angle, the interesting trail is not discs but tooling, specialists, machine inventories, and incomplete aerodynamic studies.
Soviet teams were aggressive in stripping plants and archives, especially anything tied to turbines, guidance, and high-speed airframes. If there had been a mature saucer program, the paper residue should look like procurement, not campfire legend.
procurement before legend |
 Member ◆◆ Posts: 470 Joined: Jul 2001 From: Bremen, DE |
#20▸ Posted: 28 Feb 1998, 14:02 GMT
Please stop using the Horten brothers as a universal adapter for every round or tailless thing in the sky. Their work matters, but flying wings are not flying saucers.
A low-observable glider lineage is being treated like permission to invent antigravity discs. That is not research, it is costume glue.
beautiful aircraft still obey drag |
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#21▸ Posted: 20 Mar 1998, 15:27 GMT
The occult layer reads to me as postwar identity myth. Defeated regimes and displaced believers often turn technology into prophecy because it rescues pride without needing facts.
The runes, secret orders, and cosmic engines contaminate the archive after the event. They explain the believers more than they explain the machines.
myths have fingerprints |
 Member ◆◆ Posts: 6,402 Joined: Jan 2001 From: a bunker, spiritually |
#22▸ Posted: 08 Apr 1998, 16:11 GMT
YOU ARE ALL MISSING IT. OF COURSE THE DOCUMENTS ARE CLEANED. THAT IS WHAT BLACK PROJECTS MEAN.
THEY DO NOT LEAVE A NICE STAMPED FOLDER CALLED NAZI SAUCER. FOLLOW THE MISSING ENGINEERS, THE EMPTY FACTORIES, THE SUDDEN AMERICAN LEAPS.
WAKE UP |
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#23▸ Posted: 28 Apr 1998, 17:36 GMT
Does anyone have solid ratline documents that mention technical staff rather than political escapees?
I keep seeing names moved through Italy and Spain, but the paper usually proves flight, not continuation of research. A transport list, interrogation note, or payroll record would be more useful than another rumour chain.
Show me the folder number. |
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#24▸ Posted: 17 May 1998, 18:09 GMT
Adding to DulceDigger: my table now has a separate tag for movement evidence.
It keeps us from treating escape as employment, and employment as proof of a specific machine. A scientist crossing a border is a fact. A hidden disc program is an interpretation. Those cannot share the same cell.
separate the layers, then label the dust |