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Mags_92
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#9▸ Posted: 15 Nov 1998, 18:27 MST
I pulled my notes for 02 Mar through 04 Mar. Nothing dramatic here in the southwest. 40 meters was long after sunset, 80 had normal noise, WWV was soft but present, and 20 closed about where I would expect.

I did mark some flutter late on 03 Mar, but the auroral numbers were already up enough that I would not hang a black-project tag on it. Give me a tighter HAARP window if you have one. I can compare against the logbook, but I am not going to reverse-engineer a schedule from ordinary band noise.
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TESLA_DROPOUT
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#10▸ Posted: 28 Nov 1998, 19:04 MST
Fine, I will take the columns as proposed. Timestamp, station, bearing, frequency, S-meter, noise floor, auroral index, local weather, and notes on modulation.

Keep the subjective stuff in notes, not in the main fields. If we are going to argue coupling, the log has to survive more than one reader.
derive it from Maxwell, not from incense
Mags_92
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#11▸ Posted: 11 Dec 1998, 20:11 MST
Added two more propagation comparisons from the last quiet window. The 7 MHz path behaved normally into Oregon and Alberta, but the 10 MHz path showed a repeatable swell about nine minutes after the reported heater cycle.

That does not prove the array did anything, but it gives us a cleaner place to look than the old mixed-band notes.
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Hessdalen_Lars
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#12▸ Posted: 25 Dec 1998, 07:38 MST
What are we using as controls? I want at least one night with no reported activity, one night with geomagnetic noise, and one known transmitter schedule unrelated to Alaska.

Otherwise every strange fade becomes a miracle in a lab coat.
Project Hessdalen · separate the timed from the remembered
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#13▸ Posted: 07 Jan 1999, 08:02 MST
Reminder. Do not post names, live phone numbers, exact facility access details, or anything copied from restricted channels.

Logs and public observations are enough. A sloppy thread stops being research and starts being evidence against the people writing it.
measure the load
K7RADIO
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#14▸ Posted: 21 Jan 1999, 09:19 MST
I am disputing the pineal drift claim again. There is no receiver, no control group, and no measurement method.

Calling sleep disruption a gland effect because the timing feels spooky is not analysis. Keep the biological claims out until somebody brings actual instruments and a protocol.
73s and keep your carrier clean.
Occams_Razorback
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#15▸ Posted: 03 Feb 1999, 10:06 MST
Sketching the denominator table now: total listening hours, number of monitored bands, number of stations, number of ordinary fades, number of heater-window fades, number of geomagnetic-window fades, and number discarded for bad logs.

Without denominators we are only counting hits and flattering ourselves.
bring your denominator
fluoride_Phil
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#16▸ Posted: 17 Feb 1999, 10:44 MST
You are all missing the water angle again. Conductive bodies, treated municipal supply, and ELF entrainment are part of the same machine.

The pineal argument is not mythology when the carrier is already inside the blood chemistry.
follow the gland
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