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StelliumSue
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#1▸ Posted: 14 May 2000, 08:00 EST
I know this is going to sound insane. But I have been tracking outer-planet transits against disclosure hearings, congressional testimonies, and FOI releases for three years, and the timing patterns are too consistent to ignore. Not perfect -- I keep a spreadsheet of hits AND misses, which I will post -- but statistically interesting.

I am not saying the planets CAUSE anything. I am saying the timing windows have been astrologically significant, and if you do electional work on a mundane level (choosing WHEN to release information, when to hold hearings) you would be foolish not to notice it. My record: I predicted the date window for 8 major disclosures/FOI drops in 36 months. Got 6 within plus or minus 3 days. Got 2 completely wrong. So 75 percent -- but I have to be honest about the 25 percent too, or this is just confirmation bias dressed up in ephemerides. Who else is tracking mundane timing?
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#2▸ Posted: 18 May 2000, 15:17 CST
I appreciate that you keep a spreadsheet of misses. That is the only honest way to do this. But let me push on the base rate. How many significant events happen in the world every day? Hundreds. How many major transit aspects are active at any moment? Dozens. If you allow a 3-degree orb on Saturn-anything and Pluto-anything, you are not making a narrow prediction -- you are creating a window where SOMETHING was guaranteed to happen. Eight predictions, six hits: but across how many days? What is your actual batting average compared to random chance? I am genuinely asking. Correlation without mechanism is just luck until the numbers beat the baseline.
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#3▸ Posted: 22 May 2000, 08:34 EST
You are right to push, and right that I did not control for base rate. To be specific: I made 8 SPECIFIC predictions -- the category of event AND a date window of plus/minus 3 days -- before looking at whether it happened. For example, January 1999 I predicted "a major institutional release of classified information" within 3 days of January 28 (Saturn-Pluto quincunx, exact). On January 28 the Pentagon released thousands of pages on Area 51 operations they had stonewalled for years. Hit. March 1999 I predicted a filing within 3 days of the 14th. Nothing. Miss. I am not cherry-picking events; I make the prediction first, then check. But you are right that I do not yet know if 75 percent beats chance for that window size. The two misses bothered me enough that I am rethinking my orb -- maybe 2 degrees, not 3.
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#4▸ Posted: 26 May 2000, 15:51 GMT
Keeping this on the rails. Sue, Occams, you are both being reasonable -- Sue keeps her spreadsheet, Occams asks for the denominator. To the rest of the board: if you jump in, do the same. Show your work. Show your misses. If you claim "I predicted X and it happened" and you do not also show the times you predicted X and it did NOT, you are doing astrology as religion, not as observation. That is the standard here.
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#5▸ Posted: 30 May 2000, 08:08 EST
This is huge. The planets are speaking and you are all just intellectualising. The fact that Sue got 6 of 8 is PROOF. The hearing was no accident -- the cosmic intelligence aligned to force disclosure NOW. We are moving from Piscean control structures into Aquarian transparency and the planets are orchestrating the timeline. Trust the cosmos.
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#6▸ Posted: 03 Jun 2000, 15:25 EST
No. Stop. 6 of 8 is not proof of anything except that I got 6 right and 2 wrong. That is 75 percent, and I do not even know if 75 percent is good because I have not run the stats. "Cosmic intelligence" and "age of Aquarius" is religion, not observation. I am trying to see if there is a MEASURABLE correlation between outer-planet transits and the timing of specific events -- and if there ISN'T, I want to know that too. That is the whole point of keeping the misses. So please stop reading my spreadsheet as cosmic validation. You are making it worse.
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#7▸ Posted: 07 Jun 2000, 08:42 CST
Sue, I want to help you set up the test -- because if you are right this is worth publishing, and if you are wrong it is worth knowing. You need: (1) a frozen prediction set, dated in advance, with categories and orbs; (2) an event set from a reliable date-stamped source, grabbed blind to the astrology; (3) airtight match criteria defined BEFORE matching -- this is where astrologers usually cheat; (4) the hit rate versus random chance. You said you are not qualified for the stats. Set up 1 to 3, post it, and let someone here do the math. I am serious. If there is something here, let us find out.
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#8▸ Posted: 12 Jun 2000, 15:59 EST
I am going to do exactly that. I am pulling together my prediction ledger from 1997 (dated by mailing-list archives so I cannot retrofit), a timeline of public events from news archives, and explicit match criteria. One limitation up front: I only have three years -- 8 predictions. Once I post the raw data anyone can run the math and tell me if 75 percent is meaningful or just noise. I am genuinely prepared for "just noise" -- more prepared than if I were cherry-picking hits. Check back in a few days.
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