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#9▸ Posted: 23 Aug 1999, 03:21 MST
I am reading all of this slowly. The hard part is that the message felt like rescue, not threat, but I can see how rescue language can still push a person toward a cliff.
I will not meet him alone, send money, or stop talking to my sister. I still think something real happened, but maybe the real thing is not identical with the instructions attached to it. That distinction helps.
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#10▸ Posted: 07 Sep 1999, 04:12 MST
I have softened the warning because several of you heard only punishment where I meant urgency.
The Council has not withdrawn its charge from me. I am still asked to say that delay has a cost, even when I would rather be gentler.
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#11▸ Posted: 23 Sep 1999, 04:39 MST
A loving message can still become a leash if it says, come closer or be left behind.
That is the part I cannot bless. If the Door is real, it should not need fear to make us love one another.
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#12▸ Posted: 08 Oct 1999, 05:06 MST
I believe something is moving here, but bodies are bodies. Please eat soup, drink tea, sleep if you can, and get a second opinion before making any sudden vow or journey.
Spirit does not get smaller when checked by ordinary care.
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#13▸ Posted: 23 Oct 1999, 08:18 MST
Reading this from the seeded thread feels different than I expected. Back then I wanted a sign strong enough to take choice away from me.
Now I think I was asking to be rescued from having to discern.
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#14▸ Posted: 08 Nov 1999, 09:02 MST
[staff] Discuss claims and language, not each other's salvation, sanity, or worth.
No instructions to isolate, fast, travel, give money, or cut off care. Keep testimony as testimony.
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#15▸ Posted: 23 Nov 1999, 10:27 MST
I can grant that Aurelia9 feels loving intent. I cannot grant that intent cancels pressure.
A message that says affection now depends on obedience has crossed from comfort into control, even if the speaker is trembling too.
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#16▸ Posted: 09 Dec 1999, 11:11 MST
Occams_Razorback, I hear that. I also wonder whether the image of the closing Door is an inner symbol being mistaken for an external deadline.
Symbols can heal, but when literalised they often start commanding people instead of revealing them.
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