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I take dusk photos over the lake most evenings, it is just a hobby. This one has something in it that I cannot account for and neither can three people from my camera club, two of whom are the type who LOVE telling me it is a bug or a bird.

It is not on the frame before or the frame after. Thirty seconds apart, tripod, did not move the camera. I am not saying it is a craft. I genuinely just want to know what it is before somebody tells me what it is.

9:01 PM

This is a good one, and I say that as someone who shoots down 95 percent of what lands in my inbox. Here is what I can tell you and what I cannot.

CANNOT: it is not an obvious bug (wrong motion blur signature -- a near bug smears radially, this is sharp), not an obvious bird (no wing asymmetry), not a lens flare (sun is the wrong side), not a water spot (it occludes the horizon line, so it is in front of the far shore, not on the glass).

CAN: it is consistent with something small and shiny a few hundred metres out and low, OR something large and far. The photo alone cannot separate those two and anybody who tells you it can is selling something. Lottie, do you still have the negative? Edge of frame, any chance of a second exposure?

Pete is being too cautious as usual. I have been classifying these for fifteen years and that profile -- flattened underside, the slight dorsal rise, the metallic sheen at dusk -- is a textbook Scout-class reconnaissance disc seen edge-on. They favour large bodies of fresh water for the obvious reason. I would stake my charts on it.

Lottie if you get another, note the TIME to the second and whether your hair or the hair on your arms stood up. The Scout-class runs a field you can feel.

Art, "textbook" is doing a heroic amount of work in a field that has no textbook, only your charts, which you wrote. That said -- and this is rare for me -- I cannot debunk Lottie's photo from the photo, and I have tried for an hour. Pete's framing is the correct one: two hypotheses, small-and-near vs large-and-far, undecidable from one frame. The honest answer is "unidentified," which is the literal U in UFO and does NOT mean "therefore Scout-class." It means we do not know. I can live in "we do not know." Most people here cannot, which is the actual subject of this board.

Pete -- yes, I still have the negative, I shoot film. I will get a proper scan of the negative not the print, give me a few days. No second exposure that I can see with a loupe but I will look harder at the edge.

Art -- my hair did not stand up but honestly I did not know to check, I only noticed the object when I got the prints back. Next time (if there is a next time) I will note the second.

Honestly the answer I like best so far is Razorback's, which I did not expect to say about the board skeptic. "We do not know" is where I actually am. I just did not want to be told it was a bug by people who were not there.

Negative scan is exactly right, thank you. Print scans throw away half the information and then people argue about the half that is left. When you have it, post it full-frame and unedited -- do not "clean it up," the dust and grain are part of the evidence. If the object has real edge detail on the negative that the print lost, this becomes genuinely interesting. If it softens into nothing, we have our answer and it is a boring one. Either way you did this right.

Lottie sent me a higher-res negative scan by email and I have been staring at it until my eyes crossed. It is better than the print, but not magically decisive. The object is on the negative, so we can stop talking about scanner dust, print scratches, or some weird one-hour-photo artefact.

What I still cannot get from it is scale. The edge has real density, but there is not enough surrounding reference to say small-near or large-far. I also checked the frame edge for a second exposure and I do not see one. That leaves us in the most annoying but honest box: real mark on the film, real thing in front of the lens, unknown distance, unknown size.

I tried the boring explanations again because boring is usually where the rent is paid. Bug does not fit. Bird still does not fit. Boat light reflection does not fit unless the boat was levitating, which is a separate problem. Plane at distance maybe, but the angle and lack of streak make that uncomfortable too.

So my official skeptic answer remains the one nobody enjoys: unidentified. Not alien, not Scout-class, not government anything, not a seagull with opinions. Unidentified. I wish more people understood that this is not a demotion of the case. It is the whole category doing its job.