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infrasound and the "feeling of being watched" -- the real mechanism?
dogman_Dewey
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#1▸ Posted: 15 May 1997, 09:12 PST
I've been reading about infrasound lately -- sound below 20 Hz, below the threshold of hearing but you can feel it. And I keep coming back to something hunters and field researchers describe: that moment right before something big shows up. The feeling of being watched. The dread that hits you like a switch, even when you haven't seen or heard anything yet.

What if it's not the animal sensing YOU? What if it's something in the environment -- low-frequency sound putting your nervous system on alert before your conscious mind registers anything? Has anyone come across serious literature on this? The body responds to infrasound in measurable ways: unease, disorientation, the hair standing up. Could that explain the wall of dread that so many accounts describe before contact?
Dana_Frick
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#2▸ Posted: 16 May 1997, 20:01 PST
There is real data on this. Low-frequency sound does have documented physiological effects -- disorientation, unease, even a sense of presence or dread in some subjects. It can affect the inner ear and trigger an adrenaline response before conscious awareness kicks in.

The sources are well understood: wind over terrain, geological activity, large structures in wind, water movement. We know the body responds to frequencies below 20 Hz. The question isn't whether infrasound can cause these feelings -- it can. The question is whether something is producing it deliberately, or whether you're picking up ambient infrasound from natural sources and reading it as intentional. Be careful separating what's measured from what's guessed. The science is real. The leap from "I felt dread" to "the creature made it happen" is where people lose the thread.
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#3▸ Posted: 18 May 1997, 06:51 PST
I've heard the theory that large primates could vocalize at infrasound frequencies. The claim gets made a lot in these circles. But I'll be honest: it's largely unproven. You can say "the animal might be capable of it" and that's reasonable. But then people run with it as gospel and build whole frameworks on top of speculation.

We don't have acoustic evidence from the field showing deliberate infrasound production. We have anecdotes about dread and then retroactive explanations. That's backwards reasoning. The infrasound itself might explain the sensation -- Dana's right about that -- but pinning it as a hunting or warning mechanism specific to these animals is the leap I won't make yet.
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#4▸ Posted: 19 May 1997, 17:40 PST
You're in dark woods at night. You're already primed by every story you've ever heard. Your pupils are dilated, your cortisol is up, your hearing is grabbing at every creak. And then you feel watched.

The simplest explanation: your nervous system is doing exactly what it evolved to do. Adrenaline. Expectation. The noise of your own fear. You don't need infrasound, and you don't need a creature doing anything special. You need a human animal in a heightened state in an environment designed to trigger that state. We do this to ourselves constantly. The woods at night are inherently unsettling. Add the possibility of danger and your body provides all the dread you need.
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#5▸ Posted: 21 May 1997, 04:30 PST
Wind in the canopy sounds different at different times of year. Pressure systems move through and you feel them in your chest before the weather shifts. Your legs are tired, your blood sugar is low, you've been walking for six hours, and every sound becomes a threat.

I've sat in blinds during season and felt that exact dread Dewey is describing. And I've watched a deer walk past thirty yards away while I was convinced something was about to kill me. It was nothing. It was always nothing. The body is suggestible in the wild. Wind, fatigue, hunger, and a mind fed too many stories -- that's the stack.
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#6▸ Posted: 22 May 1997, 15:19 PST
I'll tell you what I know. That feeling is real. I've felt it. And most of the time it means nothing at all. You're standing in brush at dusk and something in your hindbrain fires and says "predator nearby" and your chest goes tight and your throat dries out.

In all my years I've felt that dread more times than I can count. I've had a cougar actually cross my path maybe five times, a bear lumber past three. So by the math, that feeling of being watched is wrong almost every time. It's not tuned to actual danger. It's tuned to the possibility of danger, and in the wild that possibility is always present. I don't doubt infrasound affects you. I'm just saying don't assume the dread means something is there.
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#7▸ Posted: 24 May 1997, 02:09 PST
They put the fear into you on purpose. That is how they hunt.
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#8▸ Posted: 25 May 1997, 12:59 PST
The old-timers in these mountains didn't have a word for infrasound. But they knew what we're talking about. They called it "the feeling" -- as in, "I got the feeling and I left." They said it meant something was watching and you'd better move.

Whether that something was a frequency below hearing or just the old nervous system working overtime, I'm not sure it matters to the person in the field. The effect is the same. You feel something, you leave, and usually you're fine. What interests me is that the feeling shows up across so many accounts and cultures. Something in us recognizes danger before we can put words to it. Infrasound might be part of it. Psychology might be part of it. I don't think we'll settle this one.
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