 Member ◆◆ Posts: 59 Joined: Sep 1996 From: Montana, US |
#1▸ Posted: 09 May 1999, 09:12 EST
Been offline for three days last winter when the grid went down. Most people I know had generators in the garage, unused, untested, with three-year-old gasoline in the tank. Gas goes stale. You need stabilizer, rotation, and a written log or you will forget. A 5000W generator running at half load burns about 1.25 gallons per hour. Do the math on how many days you can actually feed it before you run dry. Most people store enough fuel for 72 hours max. Most power events last longer than that.
Also: oil. Spare filters. Know your runtime before the power dies. And the big one nobody wants to hear -- never, ever run a generator indoors. Not in the garage with the door open. Not in the basement. Carbon monoxide will kill you in your sleep, and you will not smell it coming. It is a bridge to get you through three to five days until grid power or fuel resupply. If you are treating it like a power plant for a month, you have a different problem.
bridge not a power plant |
 Member ◆◆ Posts: 84 Joined: Nov 1997 From: Texas, US |
#2▸ Posted: 10 May 1999, 18:16 EST
Garrett is right on the fuel math. I did the math on my 6500W and it runs about 2.5 gallons per hour at half load, closer to 3.5 full load. Most people I talk to have maybe 20 to 30 gallons stored. That is eight to twelve hours if you run it continuously. Then what? You are siphoning from your truck, or you forgot to rotate your stored fuel and it is gummed up. The people who think they are prepared usually blow through their supply on day two because they run everything -- the TV, the microwave, the coffee maker, the space heater, all at once. The math does not work. You have to choose.
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 Member ◆◆ Posts: 71 Joined: Mar 1997 From: Kansas, US |
#3▸ Posted: 12 May 1999, 03:20 EST
I know three people whose generators would not start when they needed them. One had been sitting fourteen months. One had oil turned to sludge. One had a fouled spark plug. All three found out at midnight during a storm. Exercise your generator monthly, even if power is on. Let it run under load for thirty minutes. Change the oil once a year. Start it in the fall before you think you need it. Write it down -- I keep a log taped to the outside of mine: last start, last oil change, oil level. If you cannot commit to monthly maintenance, do not buy a generator and pretend you are prepared. It will sit there dead on the night you need it most.
exercise it or die trying |
 Member ◆◆ Posts: 48 Joined: Apr 1997 From: Idaho, US |
#4▸ Posted: 13 May 1999, 12:24 EST
A running generator is loud. Neighbors can hear it from blocks away on a quiet night. In a true grid-down scenario, that noise means one thing: that house has power, fuel, and supplies. Do not advertise it. Run it during daylight if you can, or when ambient noise is higher. Some people build weatherproof boxes with sound-dampening foam, which helps. But you still have to fuel it, and the smell of exhaust carries too. I am not saying turn into a hermit. I am saying think about when you run it, who is around, and what you are broadcasting.
noise travels |
 Member ◆◆◆ Posts: 131 Joined: Jun 1996 From: Minnesota, US |
#5▸ Posted: 14 May 1999, 21:28 EST
You do not run the whole house on a small generator. You cannot. You choose what actually keeps your family alive and healthy. Freezer or refrigerator -- run it once or twice a day for two hours, keep it closed in between, and it stays cold enough. Sump pump if you have a basement. Furnace if it has electric ignition. Maybe a light circuit. The generator runs the freezer two hours, you shut it down for six, you repeat. It is not elegant. It is survival. Most people fail here because they want the TV AND the heater AND the fridge all at once. Pick two or three. Do the triage now, in daylight, when you are not panicked.
prioritize or fail |
 Veteran Member ◆◆◆◆◆ Posts: 12,880 Joined: Oct 1998 From: Montana, US |
#6▸ Posted: 16 May 1999, 06:32 EST
This is safety and it is non-negotiable. If you hook a generator to your house, you run it through a transfer switch. Not an extension cord into a wall outlet. Not a jumper to the panel. A transfer switch that isolates your house from the grid when the generator runs. Why? Because when the power company sends a crew to fix the downed line and they touch that wire and it is still energized from YOUR generator, they die. Or you get sued into oblivion. Or both. If you do not have a transfer switch and you do not understand the codes, hire an electrician. Pay the money. Do it right or do not do it at all.
no backfeeding the grid |
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#7▸ Posted: 17 May 1999, 15:36 EST
Just buy a huge generator. Like a 15000W, and run the whole house. Problem solved. Run it off propane so you never have to worry about gas going bad. People are overthinking this.
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 Member ◆◆ Posts: 59 Joined: Sep 1996 From: Montana, US |
#8▸ Posted: 19 May 1999, 00:41 EST
A 15000W unit on propane costs many thousands of dollars and you still have the maintenance problem, the noise problem, and the logistics of storing enough propane for a month. Most people are not ready for that and should not pretend they are. Start smaller -- a 3000 to 5000W unit, stabilized fuel in labeled containers, a maintenance log, and a clear plan for what it actually runs. Freezer. Furnace. Maybe a pump or lights. That is honest. A generator is not a power plant and it is not a cure for being unprepared. It is a tool to manage the first few days of a disruption. Everything else is wishful thinking. Stay practical out there.
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