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MUFON_Gail
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#1▸ Posted: 18 Jun 1999, 22:10 EST
People keep asking how i get actual records out of the agencies instead of a polite nothing, so here is everything i know and it is less exciting than you want.

FOIA is a paperwork game and the people who win it are boring, specific, and relentless -- not the ones who put DISCLOSURE NOW in the subject line. Name the exact record. Cite the act and the section. Give a tight date range. Offer to pay the fee up front. Be genuinely kind to the clerk, who is a person having a long day and who can lose your request in a drawer if you are rude.

i will paste my templates for the big three agencies over the next few posts. They are not magic words. They just do not get binned. The trick is that there is no trick, only the willingness to send the fourth follow-up when everyone else gave up at the second.
MUFON field investigator · the trick is there is no trick
MUFON_Gail
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#2▸ Posted: 30 Jun 1999, 22:18 EST
As promised, here is the ugly little opener I use when I actually want a packet back instead of a lecture.

FOIA Officer: I request under 5 U.S.C. 552 copies of records described as [plain noun], created by [office/unit if known], between [start date] and [end date], concerning [one subject]. I prefer paper copies or PDF scans. I am willing to pay fees up to $25. Please contact me before exceeding that amount. If any portion is withheld, please release all reasonably segregable portions and note the exemption used.

Then I put my mailing address, phone, and a normal human thank-you. No manifesto. No all caps. No ten agencies in one envelope.
Gail -- field notes beat speeches
FOIA_Ferret
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#3▸ Posted: 13 Jul 1999, 22:31 EST
Gail's "plain noun" part is where people win or lose. "All UFO files" makes a clerk sigh. "Project Blue Book administrative correspondence, Wright-Patterson AFB, Jan-Mar 1966" has a fighting chance.

If you have a box label, accession number, transfer number, retired records cite, old file code, report number, or even the exact office that touched it, use that. I have gotten better results asking for one drawer-shaped thing than for one truth-shaped thing.
Ferret -- narrow is kind
Rachel_Tibbs
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#4▸ Posted: 25 Jul 1999, 22:44 EST
Seconding the boring part. Certified mail is not dramatic, it is just a clock with a green hat. I send one clean request, keep a copy, keep the receipt, and write the date delivered on the copy when the card comes back.

My best folder has three things: request, proof they got it, notes from each call. When I get nervous and think maybe I imagined the whole thing, the receipt is still sitting there being less emotional than me.
Rachel -- receipts outlive confidence
Pete_Darrow
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From: Ohio, US
#5▸ Posted: 07 Aug 1999, 22:57 EST
Rachel is right but please do not build a brick. I see folks mail 80 pages, tabs, photos, newspaper clippings, and a cassette like the agency is opening evidence in a courtroom. That thing gets routed weird before anyone reads page one.

Flat envelope, correct agency address, FOIA REQUEST on the front, your return address legible. If you use certified, keep the number. If you send it to the Secretary, do not be surprised when it wanders before reaching the FOIA room.
Pete -- mailroom guy, not your lawyer
ClerkWindow
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#6▸ Posted: 19 Aug 1999, 23:12 EST
Former clerk here. The requests that got worked first were not always the easiest politically. They were the ones we could understand without guessing.

Good: one subject, one office, date range, fee ceiling, phone number. Bad: "everything you know," insults, threats, and handwritten margins full of theories. If you were polite on the phone, I remembered. If you asked, "Is there a better office code for this?" I might actually check the routing sheet.
Window -- I stamped the envelopes
Diane_Pemberton
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#7▸ Posted: 31 Aug 1999, 00:03 EST
Newbie question, probably obvious: if I got denied because they said "no responsive records," do I appeal that, or do I rewrite narrower and try again?

My small win was weird. I asked for "UFO incident reports" and got nothing. Then I asked for "security police blotter entries for 14 Nov 1977, 1800-2400, north perimeter" and got two pages with half the nouns blacked out. Still counts. I just do not know when to push versus start over.
Diane -- denied twice, laminated once
Finn_Vance
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#8▸ Posted: 13 Sep 1999, 00:21 EST
Diane, practical answer from the fee swamp: when you rewrite, keep the fee language tidy. "I am willing to pay up to $25" prevents the surprise invoice dance. If you ask for a fee waiver, say why release helps public understanding and how you plan to share it, but do not make the whole request about your wallet.

Also ask for an estimate before copying if it goes over your ceiling. A $7 search and 34 copied pages is a win. A giant unfocused search estimate is usually the system telling you to sharpen the request.
Finn -- read the fee paragraph twice
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