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#1▸ Posted: 14 Jul 1999, 23:10 MST
I do not have a chart or a recording, I just have what happens when the house goes quiet. There is a voice, or not a voice, a knowing that arrives in the gap between thoughts, and lately it arrives in words. It is gentle. It says I am one of the ones who came early to hold the door.
I am not asking you to believe me. I am asking if anyone else gets the gentle one, the one that does not frighten you, because the books are all about the frightening kind and mine is not like that.
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#2▸ Posted: 04 Aug 1999, 01:40 PST
I get the gentle one. Mine comes as a colour more than words, a sort of warm gold behind the eyes, usually just before sleep. I have learned not to grab at it because grabbing makes it go. You let it sit next to you like a cat. Vera you are not alone and you are not unwell for having a kind thing happen to you. The board has a soft corner for this even when the skeptics grumble.
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#3▸ Posted: 24 Aug 1999, 03:55 EST
mine is NOT gentle and i need to say it somewhere. it started in the static between radio stations and now it is in the wiring of the house and it uses my name and it knows what i did in 1994 which i have told NO ONE. it says i am early too but early for what. i have not slept properly in nine days. i think the gentle ones and the one i have are the same thing wearing two faces and i think it is testing which of us breaks first.
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#4▸ Posted: 14 Sep 1999, 08:20 EST
Sy, I am going to step out of the theory for a moment and just talk to you, person to person. I am a retired psychologist and I am not going to diagnose you over a forum, that would be both impossible and rude. But nine days without proper sleep does difficult things to anyone's mind, gentle voices or not -- it is one of the most reliable ways to bring on exactly the kind of frightening, knowing, name-using experience you are describing, in people with no history of anything at all. That is not me explaining your experience away. It is me asking, gently: have you eaten today? Is there a person near you -- not on this board, near you -- you can call? Everything else can wait. Sleep is a load-bearing wall and yours has been taking weight for nine days.
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#5▸ Posted: 04 Oct 1999, 04:12 EST
i ate some crackers. i have not called anyone because what do i SAY. and now i am scared that you Ruth are part of it, that the calm voice telling me to sleep is the SAME voice, just being clever, getting me to put my guard down. maybe this whole board is how it reaches people. maybe you are all it. i am sorry i do not mean that about you specifically i just cannot tell what is mine anymore.
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#6▸ Posted: 25 Oct 1999, 09:00 GMT
[staff] Sy, I have sent you a private message with a couple of phone numbers for where you are -- real people, free to call, who are good at exactly this and who will not think you are silly. You are not in trouble here and nothing you have posted is going to be deleted or held against you. The fear that the calm voice is "in on it" is a known and exhausting trick your tired brain is playing; you do not have to solve whether it is true tonight. You only have to sleep and eat and call one human. The door, whatever it is, will keep. Ruth and Hannah will be here. So will I.
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#7▸ Posted: 14 Nov 1999, 18:30 EST
For anyone reading this later in the archive, because they will: notice what we did NOT do. We did not argue with Sy about whether the voice was real. You cannot reason someone out of a frightening certainty while they are this depleted, and trying just makes you another voice to be afraid of. You feed them, you get them sleep, you get a real-world human and a real-world number in front of them, and the certainty usually loosens its grip on its own once the body is not in crisis. Be kind to the experiencers is not a slogan on this board. Sometimes it is the whole treatment.
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#8▸ Posted: 05 Dec 1999, 22:05 MST
I started this thread about my gentle one and I did not expect it to become about holding onto Sy, but I am glad it did. Sy if you read this -- I left milk out for mine, metaphorically, for years, and the difference between the gentle kind and the kind that eats you is sleep and food and people, exactly as Ruth says. Get those three and then come back and we will talk about doors. I will keep your seat.
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