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Post-event nosebleeds + the metal taste -- is anyone else seeing a pattern?
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NightShiftNurse
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#1▸ Posted: 13 Mar 1999, 18:02 MST
Asking this carefully, as a nurse and not as a believer or a debunker, because a pattern is only worth anything if we are honest about it.

Several of you, in the missing-time threads, have mentioned the same two after-effects without prompting -- a nosebleed in the day or two following, and a taste like metal or old pennies at the back of the mouth. I am not going to tell you what that means, because i genuinely do not know, and anyone who tells you they do is selling something.

What i CAN do is help rule the ordinary things in or out first, which is not betraying your experience, it is respecting it. So if it has happened to you: how long after, one nostril or both, and -- this matters more than it sounds -- were you somewhere dry, heated, or at altitude. Boring questions. Boring is how we earn the right to the interesting answer.
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Occams_Razorback
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#2▸ Posted: 13 Jun 1999, 18:27 MST
Denominator first: March in NM is dry enough to turn a normal nose into jerky. Add altitude, heater air, not drinking enough water, maybe a few beers after an event, and a little picking at crusted blood without noticing, and you can get a bleed plus that coin taste.

That does not explain the missing-time reports. It just means the nosebleed part has several boring routes before we give it a crown.
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#3▸ Posted: 13 Sep 1999, 18:49 MST
Clinical-ish hat on, with the usual caveat that nobody can diagnose you over a board: the old-penny taste is often just a small amount of blood running backward from the nose into the throat. People notice the taste before they notice visible bleeding.

Things worth tracking: side of bleed, duration, amount, recent cold/allergies, altitude change, heater use, aspirin/ibuprofen, blood thinners, alcohol, nasal sprays, trauma, and blood pressure if you have a way to check it.

If it is heavy, repeats several times, follows a head injury, comes with fainting, shortness of breath, chest pain, confusion, or will not stop with steady pressure, get seen promptly.
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Mina_Goddard
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#4▸ Posted: 14 Dec 1999, 19:16 MST
I get the penny mouth before I lose time on the clock and I hate typing that because it sounds like I am trying to make it spooky. I am not. I also live in a dry apartment and my sinuses are a disaster and I have had plain ordinary nosebleeds since I was a kid, so every part of me wants it to be that.

But the taste is not always with an actual drip. Sometimes it is like I bit my tongue, then my teeth feel too big, then I check the bathroom mirror and there is nothing except one nostril sore way up high. The next day I find blood on the pillowcase, tiny, brown, not dramatic. The times that line up with reports, it is after I feel wrung out and cold, like I stayed up all night even if I was supposedly asleep.

I am not saying cause. I am saying the timing is what made me start writing it down. If you are already trying to rule out the normal stuff, write the normal stuff down too, because otherwise your brain will only save the weird pieces.
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#5▸ Posted: 14 Mar 2000, 20:03 MST
Humidifier by the bed changed this for me. Not cured, but changed. Also saline mist before sleep when the wind has been up all day.

Out here you can be bone dry and not feel thirsty. Then one sneeze in the morning and there she goes.
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#6▸ Posted: 14 Jun 2000, 20:41 MST
Pinch the soft part, lean forward, time it. If it keeps happening, doctor.
Dot_Harmon
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#7▸ Posted: 14 Sep 2000, 21:08 MST
Seconding the dry air angle, but also please do not let people wave that around like it explains everything. Dryness is a condition, not a full story.

My messy little list when mine started: heat on at night, windows cracked, coffee all day, no water, allergy pills, two nights bad sleep, one bloody nose at 3 AM, copper taste for hours. The fix was boring and still took a week to settle down.

If your pattern is only after the event reports, that is a pattern. If it is after every cold windy day, that is a pattern too.
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MapleMissing
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#8▸ Posted: 15 Dec 2000, 21:42 MST
Mine was both nostrils but not at the same time, if that makes sense. Left side first in the bathroom, right side later when I woke up at 4:12 and felt like I had been dropped into bed from a great height.

House was dry. I had been crying earlier too, which probably matters and is embarrassing but there it is. The metal taste was BEFORE the visible blood though. That is the part I keep circling.
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