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The "screen memory" problem in interviews -- how do you control for it?
cold_case_Kayo
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From: Osaka, JP
#1▸ Posted: 13 Jan 1998, 09:00 JST
Methodology thread, and I am going to argue something that will annoy both camps at once: the biggest threat to a contact account is not the skeptic and it is not the cover-up. It is the INTERVIEW. "Screen memory" -- the idea that a benign image (an owl, a deer, a doctor) sits over the real event -- is a real and useful concept and it is also the single most dangerous tool in this field, because the moment an interviewer decides your owl is a screen, they have license to replace your actual memory with their theory, and they will, gently, without either of you noticing. Add hypnotic regression and it gets worse: Hopkins and Jacobs did enormous, sincere work and also demonstrably led witnesses, and the accounts started converging on each interviewer's house style, which is exactly what you would expect if the method was writing the script. Loftus put false childhood memories into adults with a paragraph and a confident tone -- the "lost in the mall" work -- and an abduction interview has far more than a paragraph and a confident tone.
Osaka · the interview is the contamination
cold_case_Kayo
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#2▸ Posted: 10 Feb 1998, 09:14 JST
So here is the protocol I actually argue for, and it is boring on purpose. (1) Record verbatim, audio, the FIRST telling, before anyone -- including the witness -- has theorised. The clean account is a non-renewable resource; you get it once. (2) Open questions only. "What happened next" not "did you see a craft." Never supply a noun the witness has not already used. (3) Do NOT interpret in front of them. The second you say "that owl might be a screen," you have handed them a better story and taken away the only uncontaminated one. (4) No hypnosis. I know how much that costs in this field; I am holding the line anyway, because hypnotic confidence is not memory, it is confabulation wearing memory's coat. (5) Separate witnesses BEFORE they compare notes; independent agreement gathered separately is data, agreement after a phone call is an echo. (6) Date everything. The "screen memory" reading, if it ever comes, comes LAST, from the witness, never first, from you.
Osaka · you get the clean account once
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#3▸ Posted: 10 Mar 1998, 04:30 PST
Co-signing every word and adding the part Kayo is too rigorous to lead with: the same method that protects the DATA protects the PERSON. The experiencer in front of you is not a case file, they are usually frightened and usually ashamed, and the interviewer who races to "it was a screen memory, you were taken" is not being a good researcher OR a good human -- they are feeding their own need for the account to be the exciting thing. Slow down. Let the boring explanations stay on the table where the person can see you taking them seriously, because that is how they learn you are not going to use them. The ones who feel safe tell you more, and what they tell you when they feel safe is worth ten regression sessions. Kindness and rigour are the same discipline here. They really are.
Oregon · we examine the claim, not the person
Occams_Razorback
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#4▸ Posted: 07 Apr 1998, 14:00 CST
I want it noted in the permanent record that I agree with the abduction board, completely, without a single reservation, and that I had to go and sit down afterwards. Everything Kayo wrote is just forensic interview best practice -- it is what you would demand of a police interview of a child witness, and the fact that this field mostly does the OPPOSITE is the strongest argument the skeptics have and the believers keep handing it to us. Here is the thing I will add that neither side likes: a properly taken account that REMAINS strange after you have stripped out the leading, the hypnosis, the post-hoc theorising and the witness-contamination -- that is the only abduction data I consider worth a damn, and there is a small, stubborn pile of it, and it is small precisely BECAUSE almost nobody collects it Kayo's way. Clean your methods and you will have less data and better data and I will take you more seriously. That is not a trap. That is the whole offer.
the 5% · less data, better data
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